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Post by Bookwyrm627 on Apr 29, 2022 16:27:21 GMT
Process elimination (assuming I'm right in my long N2 post) leaves me of the opinion that Dessimu or Joe should be investigated. I think somewhat higher priority lands on Dessimu as the less likely to be lynched one.
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Post by Bookwyrm627 on Apr 29, 2022 16:29:04 GMT
I think catte should do the kill. No super special reason, just so he's our special contract killer expert lol Mechanically speaking I might be the better choice, but the flavor is fun since the rest of us have a Role.
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Post by catte on Apr 29, 2022 16:46:37 GMT
*do
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Post by catte on Apr 29, 2022 16:48:20 GMT
I have no objection to doing the kill. If I am caught you can all bus me hard.
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Post by yogsloth on Apr 29, 2022 17:25:28 GMT
I'm not super invested either way - you guys pick lol
Book - you're in charge of final submission for the actions. :)
blocking and killing dedo is all I care about - you pick who does the kill and whom I investigate
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Post by Bookwyrm627 on Apr 29, 2022 18:21:39 GMT
Alright. Pending any other input/ideas, here's the night actions. Yogsloth investigates Dedo Dessimu. Lift blocks Dedo. Catte kills Dedo. Wyrm stumps Dedo.
Anyone have any input about Day play? Who might be vulnerable to lynch, dangerous, or other clues about game state?
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Post by The GOGFather on Apr 29, 2022 18:30:05 GMT
Alright. Pending any other input/ideas, here's the night actions. Yogsloth investigates Dedo Dessimu. Lift blocks Dedo. Catte kills Dedo. Wyrm stumps Dedo. Anyone have any input about Day play? Who might be vulnerable to lynch, dangerous, or other clues about game state?
Noted.
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Post by yogsloth on Apr 29, 2022 18:30:34 GMT
Anyone have any input about Day play? Who might be vulnerable to lynch, dangerous, or other clues about game state? Yeah, no day chat is rough lol I imagine bucktooth and Joe will both come under some scrutiny Lift will unfortunately be a good target as well Our best strategy is probably to divide attention, get 3-4 different wagons going and snow town under with too much information Book, I imagine you just stay locked onto Cadaver more or less catte, you'll need to be more involved, just pick whatever you like and go for it same for lift and for me, not sure who I'll go after, will just play it by ear
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Post by lifthrasil on Apr 29, 2022 18:50:25 GMT
I agree to the actions. I'm probably a main suspect on D3. We'll see how that goes.
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Post by catte on Apr 29, 2022 20:23:49 GMT
Yup, I agree to those actions and yup I know I need to do more. If my inactivity gets me investigated make sure you all get on my wagon quick-like.
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Post by yogsloth on Apr 29, 2022 21:35:26 GMT
Sounds like we're resolved, then.
Good luck gents!
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Post by The GOGFather on Apr 30, 2022 16:52:38 GMT
Locked.
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Post by The GOGFather on Apr 30, 2022 16:58:26 GMT
N2 is over. Please stop posting.
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Post by The GOGFather on Apr 30, 2022 17:09:57 GMT
yogsloth result: Dessimu performed the following action(s): Voyeur
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Post by The GOGFather on May 5, 2022 8:24:23 GMT
So...
Basically just consider that HSL was your N3 kill. I realise it's not fair for you, and that you might have wanted to kill someone else, and I really apologise for doing it, but this was the best way to preserve balance by numbers and the only realistic way of dealing with the situation without breaking the game, given how no subs were available.
Also, this is one "NK" that won't come back as a stump, so you have that for you.
And no powers will be used, so no one will take advantage of this kill-free Night.
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Post by The GOGFather on May 6, 2022 17:56:30 GMT
N3 has started. You may post here.
Once you have consensus that you want to Night Kill HSL, please let me know.
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Post by catte on May 6, 2022 17:56:57 GMT
Once you have consensus that you want to Night Kill HSL, please let me know. Lolle.
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Post by yogsloth on May 6, 2022 17:58:17 GMT
Day has ended and the flip has been announced, so hopefully not jumping the gun posting here
First note, on the HLS kill, I think it was probably the best option you could get.
My first reaction was "holy crap, this sucks for town! a killed player under suspicion, and only VT!"
then my 2nd reaction was "holy crap, no this sucks for us, we don't get to pick our NK and get no actions"
Then I thought "no way, it sucks more for them because they don't get any actions at all"
So if it sucks about evenly for everybody then that's about the best you can hope for
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Post by yogsloth on May 6, 2022 18:01:14 GMT
In the end, that Day went about as well as it possibly could have
My apologies, I didn't say here in advance, my vote on Lift to start was never intended to last. Just pure distancing - basic Mafia 101 stuff.
Even my switch to catte I assumed I would at some point get an easy out if I needed it, and indeed, we got it and I was 100% prepared to switch to micro if needed.
I want to give special note to catte for playing really well at the EOD, which prevented any microfish voters from being tempted to switch votes.
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Post by yogsloth on May 6, 2022 18:02:29 GMT
I also want to say I continue to love the stump mechanic we have in play. It makes things very difficult; a lot of new strategic thinking I've never had to do before in a mafia game. I really like how it changes how you have to think about every vote and every kill.
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Post by catte on May 6, 2022 18:04:19 GMT
Yeah, I think the HSL kill is the best option in a bad situation so no resentment from me.
Thanks for the hammer there Book, although I'm a little worried about the Micro-stump. There are definitely going to be questions about that toMorrow. Maybe they'll think it's to compensate for the lack of HSL stump/NK stump.
I'm sorry again for my lack of participation on D2 and the trouble it's brought up. If it's any consolation, it really is NAI and I think Cadaver and Dessimu are right for the wrong reasons. :P
The good news is that Cadaver for some bizarre reason thinks I'd put all my scum buddies at the town end of my reads list. So if I get lunched tomorrow hopefully that'll send him barking up some wrong trees.
Joe got THE EXACT SCUM TEAM at the scum end of his list but I'm sure that won't last.
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Post by catte on May 6, 2022 18:06:59 GMT
I want to give special note to catte for playing really well at the EOD, which prevented any microfish voters from being tempted to switch votes. Aww, thanks buddy. I'm never especially confident that I'm doing the right thing so I imagined you guys all going "No, catte! What are you doing? Stop!". Weird arguments like Dessimu's annoy me regardless of alignment so that wasn't especially calculated play. ;)
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Post by yogsloth on May 6, 2022 18:08:37 GMT
Yeah, funny, micro had really great reads too lol
Catte, we might have to bus you tomorrow. As much as we'd love to have a flawless victory, it's probably going to be hard to achieve. It's not certain, and I'm not going to come flying out the gate with a vote myself, but if we do yeet you that should just about slam the door shut for us winning, as there are some seriously bad-looking takes and votes on that micro wagon from townies.
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Post by Bookwyrm627 on May 6, 2022 18:12:10 GMT
ZFR, I agree with Yog and Catte that you did the best you could, and it is a decent solution all the way around since everyone gains/loses something.
I am sorry (both to you and to Town) that I've been so unavailable. I figure the hammer should still set us up; either they kill me for it and lose all future stumps, or they don't kill me and they don't finish the scum team. Also, I think I may have put enough distance between me and Lift that they won't get us both.
Now, I really do have to go do some errands before school ends. I won't be around most of tomorrow, and I will be camping next weekend.
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Post by Bookwyrm627 on May 6, 2022 18:12:53 GMT
We're in a position to quick-hammer too, if we think they don't have a vig. Maybe pick a time for everyone to be around each day for it?
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Post by yogsloth on May 6, 2022 18:16:53 GMT
We're in a position to quick-hammer too, if we think they don't have a vig. Maybe pick a time for everyone to be around each day for it? Probably just too difficult to coordinate, given our business, time zones, and lack of day chat. I think we just play it by ear. You're not likely to be yeeted just for the hammer, because we don't have catte's flip to say you were defending a buddy. Even if the next two yeets are Catte-Book we're still in great shape Far better on Day 4 just to be present, make some accusations, and let town eat themselves the micro stump shouldn't be a problem - it can easily be explained in-game by the "no NK" aspect, and I doubt microfish is really gonna lead town to victory at this point OH BTW what the hell is up with dedo's total BS claim lol I mean, WE know he didn't track Pooka N1, but why on earth is he claiming he did?
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Post by catte on May 6, 2022 19:10:43 GMT
Yeah, funny, micro had really great reads too lol Catte, we might have to bus you tomorrow. As much as we'd love to have a flawless victory, it's probably going to be hard to achieve. It's not certain, and I'm not going to come flying out the gate with a vote myself, but if we do yeet you that should just about slam the door shut for us winning, as there are some seriously bad-looking takes and votes on that micro wagon from townies. Absolutely fine. I started today half expecting to be bussed so tomorrow is a bonus day for me. But yeah, no sense in starting a wagon. If one forms naturally I fully expect you to take advantage. I'd do the same in your shoes.
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Post by Bookwyrm627 on May 6, 2022 19:34:52 GMT
OH BTW what the hell is up with dedo's total BS claim lol I mean, WE know he didn't track Pooka N1, but why on earth is he claiming he did? I know, right? I've actually been contemplating that since I saw. My guess is that it's a setup for a mass claim; if whomever he checked N1 doesn't make a claim that indicates having a gun, then he's got them. After all, what is Town going to do about his lie, lynch him? The "Tracked Pooka" bit seems to indicate that he's got nothing new to add, and he really might have nothing depending on how the claims fall out.
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Post by Bookwyrm627 on May 6, 2022 19:36:33 GMT
Speaking of starting wagons: Don't. If you start one and it doesn't get quick hammered, that implies that one of the two is scum. So perhaps a lucky Town on Town vote will help lead people in the direction of "why are you still alive?".
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Post by yogsloth on May 6, 2022 19:46:14 GMT
I know, right? I've actually been contemplating that since I saw. My guess is that it's a setup for a mass claim; if whomever he checked N1 doesn't make a claim that indicates having a gun, then he's got them. After all, what is Town going to do about his lie, lynch him? The "Tracked Pooka" bit seems to indicate that he's got nothing new to add, and he really might have nothing depending on how the claims fall out. That's what I figure, too, and I pretty much said so in-game. However, that really only works if he's got a gun check the first day. Who knows? I guess if he does come out and drop a positive gun check on one of us, we just have to claim one-shot vig and we've never used it. Obvious BS, but what can you at that point
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