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Post by yogsloth on Apr 20, 2022 16:23:41 GMT
Unless book (or anybody) has a better idea for me
if somebody has a strong reason to suspect a townie has a good role
otherwise I think we have it
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Post by The GOGFather on Apr 20, 2022 16:27:54 GMT
Current actions
Yogsloth follows Pooka Lift Rolestops Bookwyrm Bookwyrm NKs maxleod
You may change them anytime before I lock actions for Night end. Yogs and Lift can change their actions by themselves. NK needs consensus. Unless you all agree that a single person may edit NK or any action.
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Post by Bookwyrm627 on Apr 20, 2022 16:35:27 GMT
I just missed where/why Pooka was interesting in a way that makes us want to spend one of our role investigations on him. I've already suggested Dedo and HSL as two of the players most hazardous to our health. Based on remembered impressions of Gogtrial from previous game(s), I'd toss him in that same pile.
I could see stumping Pooka and leaving Max alive.
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Post by Bookwyrm627 on Apr 20, 2022 16:49:19 GMT
Actually, you know what? I think I'm proposing Dessimu as the NK. He's being generally Town read and he doesn't seem to be on any of us, so off-ing him doesn't hurt us or remove more lynchable people.
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Post by Bookwyrm627 on Apr 20, 2022 18:42:12 GMT
Alright, I've caught up on the game thread.
I'm not a fan of investigating Pooka, because there's a better-than-average chance Town removes him. Let's target people who are likely to stick around so we know whether to remove their ability or hunt elsewhere. In line with this, I suggest Gogtrial, HSL, Dedo, Joe, and Dessimu (in no particular order) as targets to investigate.
I'm thinking Lift should Rolestop Pooka (or someone else scummy) rather than me because it will screw with Townies trying to get a read on Lift's target. My role makes me far and away the most expendable member of our team, so if they catch me making the kill, so what? You guys then have a PR target for the following Night. In line with this, I suggest Rolesopping from among the rest of them (Cadaver, Max, Buck, Micro, Pooka).
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Post by catte on Apr 20, 2022 19:18:28 GMT
Alright, I've caught up on the game thread. I'm not a fan of investigating Pooka, because there's a better-than-average chance Town removes him. Let's target people who are likely to stick around so we know whether to remove their ability or hunt elsewhere. In line with this, I suggest Gogtrial, HSL, Dedo, Joe, and Dessimu (in no particular order) as targets to investigate. I'm thinking Lift should Rolestop Pooka (or someone else scummy) rather than me because it will screw with Townies trying to get a read on Lift's target. My role makes me far and away the most expendable member of our team, so if they catch me making the kill, so what? You guys then have a PR target for the following Night. In line with this, I suggest Rolesopping from among the rest of them (Cadaver, Max, Buck, Micro, Pooka). I think Yog's reasoning was to investigate someone who he can make a strong argument for town!Yogs investigating in case he is tracked or something. Are you mixing up rokestipping and rokebkocking? Rokestipping pooka would defend him against other people's actions.
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Post by Bookwyrm627 on Apr 20, 2022 20:14:17 GMT
I think Yog's reasoning was to investigate someone who he can make a strong argument for town!Yogs investigating in case he is tracked or something. Are you mixing up rokestipping and rokebkocking? Rokestipping pooka would defend him against other people's actions. Sure, I understand investigating Pooka because Town!Yogs might do so, but can he make a case for investigating someone more beneficial to us?
No, I'm not mixing them up. It'd certainly be a shame if some suspicious townie couldn't be confirmed as Town by a Town Cop or some such, eh?
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Post by catte on Apr 20, 2022 20:37:09 GMT
Got you. Well, let's see what the others think.
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Post by yogsloth on Apr 21, 2022 3:49:33 GMT
I'm pretty solidly sold on NK'ing max. NK'ing any active player and turning them into a town treestump is bad bad. You think they're not "onto us" one day, but once they're confirmed eternal town, that can change in a big hurry. I've seen treestumps on MU demolish wolves that way - once they become invulnerable, unkillable, town-confirmed... all the pressure is off and they can really solve.
For my target, however, I'm totally open. How about dedo? In game I've given zero reads of him so he could be an "unknown" to me I'd investigate.
Also, Book's idea of rolestopping Pooka is actually really good. If town cop picks pooka that will screw them up. I like that. Let's do that.
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Post by lifthrasil on Apr 21, 2022 8:48:58 GMT
Yes, let's stick with maxleod as the NK. It gives him the chance of participating in the game without pressure, if he wants to, and it provides us with a non-dangerous stump.
And I'll stick to rolestopping our killer, so that he can't be tracked or otherwise targeted.
But if you want to investigate someone other than Pooka, sure, go ahead. Dedo and HSL are dangerous players, I agree, but that doesn't mean that they have dangerous PRs.
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Post by Bookwyrm627 on Apr 21, 2022 12:17:27 GMT
If Lift is set on protecting our killer, then have Catte make the kill. Let's double up that protection and better he be protected from investigation than me, since his role doesn't have a drawback for us.
My suggested course of action: -Catte makes the kill [Edit: on Max] -Yog investigate Dedo -Lift protect Catte (I'd prefer protect Pooka or some other suspicious Townie, but this is Lift's choice)
--- In other news, I'm not going to be entirely surprised if Carradice gets tree stumped. If he does, then I'd guess there's a Town Stumper out there and we should watch for who isn't properly surprised. I'm not planning to claim anything until Day 3/4 or mass claim.
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Post by catte on Apr 21, 2022 17:02:08 GMT
Yeah, ok. I'm happy to do the kill.
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Post by The GOGFather on Apr 21, 2022 17:06:32 GMT
3 hrs left.
You guys have an agreement on what to change?
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Post by catte on Apr 21, 2022 17:21:20 GMT
I have no strong feelings. I'm happy to go with Bookwyrm's suggestion if the other two come online and agree to it.
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Post by yogsloth on Apr 21, 2022 17:41:37 GMT
Well, this is getting all mixed up now.
As of this point, then, let's call it what book has-
Catte kills max yog investigates dedo lift rolestops catte
If we're doing that though, I would prefer lift rolestop pooka. It would suck to have cop turn up a town result on him.
@ lift?
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Post by Bookwyrm627 on Apr 21, 2022 17:51:38 GMT
Well, this is getting all mixed up now. As of this point, then, let's call it what book has- Catte kills max yog investigates dedo lift rolestops catte If we're doing that though, I would prefer lift rolestop pooka. It would suck to have cop turn up a town result on him. @ lift? I'll do the kill if Lift rolestops Pooka (don't risk Catte). If Lift is going to rolestop our killer, then Catte does the kill (don't risk Catte).
Either way, I'm down for it, and keeping an eye on the thread.
Yog, if Lift decides to stay on rolestopping our killer, what would you want to do different?
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Post by yogsloth on Apr 21, 2022 18:10:38 GMT
I dunno, whatever, I've got to be afk so you guys figure it out
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Post by The GOGFather on Apr 21, 2022 18:49:30 GMT
Just over an hour. I'll take yogloth's last message to mean he's OK with whatever you decide.
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Post by Bookwyrm627 on Apr 21, 2022 19:30:17 GMT
Lift is European timezone, so several hours ahead, so may not be back in time to say anything else.
Going with his last message, I guess we're at this: yog investigates dedo Catte kills max lift rolestops catte
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Post by lifthrasil on Apr 21, 2022 20:35:48 GMT
I'm still awake! But yes, let's go with that.
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Post by lifthrasil on Apr 21, 2022 20:39:04 GMT
But yog is right, Pooka is prime investigation material for a town cop. But still I prefer to protect our killer.
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Post by The GOGFather on Apr 21, 2022 20:39:45 GMT
Locked.
N1 is over. Please stop posting
Catte buffer zoneā¢
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Post by The GOGFather on Apr 21, 2022 20:52:50 GMT
yogsloth result: dedo performed the following action(s): Gunsmith
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Post by The GOGFather on Apr 22, 2022 0:04:06 GMT
Lift is European timezone, so several hours ahead, so may not be back in time to say anything else. Going with his last message, I guess we're at this: yog investigates dedo Catte kills max lift rolestops catte Just to be clear, these are the actions I went with. yogs said he was ok with you making the decision, catte did too in his last post, as did Lift (even if we only consider the posts he made before deadline he was clearly agreeing to them as long as he rolestops the NKer).
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Post by The GOGFather on Apr 28, 2022 16:40:59 GMT
N2 has started. You may post.
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Post by yogsloth on Apr 28, 2022 16:48:55 GMT
book and catte, could you two mooks hear me INTERNALLY SCREAMING the last few days?
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Post by yogsloth on Apr 28, 2022 16:58:37 GMT
Anyway, we got super lucky!
I realized something critically important after Day phase started, so I couldn't post it here.
We have to kill every person that drops a hammer, because if Book dies, town sees how his role card works and it becomes an instant cop check for everybody that hammered. (For example, if Book gets yeeted D3, town sees how his role works and sees that Pooka was not stumped, so that means Joe can't be mafia.) Since Pooka hammered D1, we got lucky by getting him out of the way.
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Post by yogsloth on Apr 28, 2022 17:00:52 GMT
That said, we have the problem of dedo.
"Gunsmith" is essentially cop in this setup. The safe, sane play would be to both roleblock and kill him tonight. Clearly, whatever check he got off N1 came back "no gun" as he wasn't concerned about anything in particular, it seems. Killing him stumps him, but if we block him as well, he'll only have that one check to report.
If we roleblock him, but kill someone else, we'll have no way to stop him getting off another shot N3 and reporting it (unless he gets yeeted D3, and that's highly unlikely), and that's bad.
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Post by yogsloth on Apr 28, 2022 17:03:13 GMT
My suggestion is Lift roleblocks dedo catte kills him And I'm open on whom to investigate. Dessimu?
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Post by The GOGFather on Apr 28, 2022 17:16:20 GMT
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