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Post by atlo on Dec 16, 2023 17:50:01 GMT
Ok, so I put some more thought in me typing up an accusatory post and it all brakes apart at whatever you would have to answer -- I just see no way to pull off an ''Oh, atlo is probably fellow townie scumhunting mafia and definitely not mafia trying to build up a wagon on me. Also - here is my townie answer as to why I posted a wall of text after the lynch had already happened.''
Should, however, there appear to be a wagon forming in the late stages already - we could pull this off to completely separate.
Alternatively: you can actually think up of something to pull off an ''Atlo is Townie just asking questions. I see no reason why he would be mafia attempting to form a wagon on me.''
The beauty of our team is - your approaches are so completely different from mine! :D
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Post by The GOGFather on Dec 16, 2023 19:06:16 GMT
@ pooka: Could you ask Lift if he would prefer to be the NK please? If he agrees you can already consider him the target of the NK. Done. If he accepts, he'll be the nightkill. If he rejects, you cannot kill him for this night. |
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Post by atlo on Dec 16, 2023 20:07:16 GMT
I've been staring at the monitor for too long. That last post should have read:
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Post by The GOGFather on Dec 16, 2023 20:43:34 GMT
"Cheers!" Natsuko invited Amanda over again to her house, sitting on both sides of the sofa. In contrast to the Japanese woman's simple black pants and white tank top, Amanda wore blue jeans and an orange sweatshirt with blue flowers. Natsuko shared some wine with her partner in crime, as the two women tipped their glasses.
"Hahaha." Nats laughed out. "Stuart kept saying good things about Miriam. Despite her destroying his ass when he threw a religious lecture."
"Still, the poor girl left." Amanda sighed. "I'm still surprised she was that kinda person though."
Nats sipped some of her wine. "I had my feelings for a while. That she's one of those people who know their stuff but don't believe any of it. I might've misheard but I think she hugged Nikolay suggestively, too. I don't like that kinda two-faced person."
"Well, to be fair, it's probably a habit from her old country." Amanda grinned. "Same as yours."
Nats looked into Amanda's eyes for a fair bit of time. "I guess I can relate. Still, I'm mildly curious about Ms. Pervert Named After Virgin Mary's, uhm, body count. Eh, whatever." She turned her head away. "Speaking of... can we, for the love of America, NOT USE ANIME CHARACTERS THIS TIME?" She accentuated the last few words of her sentence.
Amanda shrugged with a faint smile. "Sure thing, Nats. It's time to confuse them, right?"
"Hell yes." Nats smiled. "But...what are your ideas?"
Amanda put her finger on her chin for a few seconds. "We could go for planes... or Karen's favorite managers and employees... or the kind of stuff that forces Sam to think. Anything works, Nats. Just tell me what you want."
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In addition to the nightkill, you can pick the theme of the next "anonymous" memesters, to replace the current anime-themed ones.
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Post by The GOGFather on Dec 16, 2023 20:45:55 GMT
Also, you can edit your posts here. There's no real point to not editing them. Just please don't delete entire posts ok
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Post by atlo on Dec 17, 2023 9:46:04 GMT
Dammit joppo, I hope you come back online before the night ends! I'm not good @ making decisions! :''D
Planes... Eiffel tower... this is your captain speaking... if you'd look out the left of your window you will see Stuart Stutter's house. I don't know. Change memestar to planes.
Also - go after Karen (trentonlf) if there has been no answer from Sam (Lifthrasil).
Side note - This forum had a 404 error for a few hours this morning. That was ''fun'' :D
good to know about the edits. I will keep the previos unedited so as not to ''break the flow''.
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Post by The GOGFather on Dec 17, 2023 10:26:53 GMT
Yeah, this forum was down earlier. I was scared of the possibility this forum got deleted off existence with no chance to even back it up, but phew, at least I'm typing this now.
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Post by The GOGFather on Dec 17, 2023 10:28:42 GMT
Okay, Karen it is for the night kill
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Post by joppo on Dec 17, 2023 10:37:59 GMT
Well I typed a pretty long reply which I then lost when we had a power surge... that I caused by hitting the wrong power breaker. Well, whatever. As I was saying, in game #71 which was one of the last times I was scum from the start of a game (instead of subbing into the Mafia, something I have a lot of experience with!), Dedo was my partner and he was MPV for that game. I made something stupid at the twilight of D1 and had my fate sealed by D3. Dedo then kept going alone, writing his decisions and strategies in the scumchat for posterity. One thing he said to me wen I suggest to kill ZFR was: Yes I know this is based on past history even I wouldn't be able to tell, much less you, but the gist of it in this and later NKs Dedo made was to give Town the least possible information with each kill. If Maxleod hadn't been lynched he would be the perfect victim toNight: he didn't interact with anybody, didn't say he suspected anyone, wasn't accused by anyone. His flip would tell them nothing. Well it is not easy to find a target that wouldn't give them any info, but surprisingly, I guess those farthest from us right now are Yog and Trent. I would pick Yog if Lift isn't an option. Sorry for the long absence. We're undergoing a heat wave where I can't even stay at the pc for too long. It's so bad that we had ice cream for dinner last night. When the sun finally set I had to cut the grass and my wife needed my help with lots of stuff. Edit: just noting that "scumchat" up above is a hyperlink to a backup of said chat. |
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Post by joppo on Dec 17, 2023 10:50:06 GMT
Planes are not a bad choice, but I know close to nothing about them. I guess I could be a Spitfire but I think it is too obvious a clue to my identity.
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Post by joppo on Dec 17, 2023 10:59:11 GMT
I guess we have a lot less strong players this time, so killing Trent isn't the problem that killing ZFR in game #71 would be. For example I guess it tells us that chances are low that Yog was involved, but on the other hand I also think only Yog and Lift would have the experience to make that association from the current player roster.
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Post by joppo on Dec 17, 2023 12:32:14 GMT
My post below was somehow posted twice. Ignore this one.
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Post by joppo on Dec 17, 2023 12:38:51 GMT
Yes. I was about to raise this point... =P I am actually in interested in posting a post that accuses you! xD The general idea: ''Joppo made a RV then dissapeared for 2 days. He might have had RL reasons - how convenient to have an excuse not to post... but let's look at what he did post when he came back... a long wall of text ( trying to appear townie?) Even has his own name listed in the player-list! ( It's like his mafia buddy wrote it for him!) <-- Here I'm counting on the fact that someone would point out how you barely had time to write a long wall of text, but somehow managed to insert a funny remark. Most important of all -- it was all too late! Why post all that when a lynch has already happened!?'' What would all this accomplish? Put some distance between us. If I directly accuse you of being scum and one of should flip - nobody, but the most paranoid conspiracy theorist would think that we work together. The dangers, though are great... 1st) It would drawn unwanted attention. 2nd) This could go either way - a wagon may very well somehow form! If I were to go through with it -- would you have some replies ready ??? Yeah, I wouldn't recommend you go and accuse me. Because you might succeed :) The shortest route to our victory is in getting to a 2vs2 (I'm ignoring the Neutral here for now). That means 6 players gone, in 3 mislynches and 3 NKs. The NKs are a given now that the Jk is gone so we need 2 extra lynches of players that aren't any of us. If either of us is lynched the other will need to survive an extra Day to win. Let's not go there if can avoid it. So I recommend you question me, yes. But my explanation supposedly should satisfy you, because, well, I said it was a REAL LIFE reason (which was true, in fact) and those should be believed. Plus regular players would know I'm not one to use this excuse just to get time off (and even if I was that would be a stupid moment to play that card. I had no heat on me). It could backfire against you if you accuse me based on that.
So, going back to something I said. Push anyone you see doing scummy stuff, including me, yes. If I do something stupid you should buss me right away if saving me is unfeasible. You absolutely can't risk them linking us and lynching you next, and bussing me could give you a bunch of Towncred that could guarantee you're not among the remaining lynches. In the game #71 Dedo had major Towncred already, but when I did stupid stuff the plan immediately turned into making the most of it. He bussed me and was seen as the most townie of the remaining players for the rest of the game (also because he played incredibly townie-like).
But like I said, only if it makes sense to buss, otherwise you're just prolonging the game. Also, don't be surprised if I turn against you in case I see there's no way to avoid you being lynched. Like I said I can't risk not being in your wagon.
I recommend you start asking more and more questions, and possibly disbelieving either of GR or Scene. In the meantime I am concentrating on Micro. We should try to influence but not be obviously causing the lynch of another townie. So keep your options open, ask questions of the others too, let someone else take the lead into lynching whoever is not us.
I use my rolecop with CatVenturer.If she is the FN then you must back away right now Atlo. |
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Post by atlo on Dec 17, 2023 12:42:10 GMT
Good timing! You posted just 5 minutes ago! :D
All good, understandable points. o7
Let's see what the day brings.
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Post by joppo on Dec 17, 2023 14:28:58 GMT
Yep. Let's see how it goes. For all we know we can plan our every move and then suddenly something comes out of left field and gets one player (maybe even one of us) on the verge of being lynched. So there's a point where you must stop trying to predict every little thing that might happen and plan for it, and just improvise if something unexpected comes up.
We at least have a nice advantage in that case because of our daychat. We could coordinate the way each of us will react, plus one of us could see and warn of undesired consequences for an action that the other starts planning during the Day. If it weren't for daychat we would each be on our own until next Night.
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Post by The GOGFather on Dec 17, 2023 19:05:58 GMT
Planes are not a bad choice, but I know close to nothing about them. I guess I could be a Spitfire but I think it is too obvious a clue to my identity. Don't worry, I don't know either. And neither does Amanda nor Nats. As far as I know they could be a Boeing and F-16. |
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Post by atlo on Dec 18, 2023 22:01:05 GMT
Semi-urgent: I have several questions thought up for the other players. Except for you!
I need you to give me a loaded question! Preferably something that you have a Townie answer to. But a non-answer would also do I guess.
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Post by joppo on Dec 18, 2023 23:16:18 GMT
Well you could ask me what you wanted to ask before, regarding why I only appeared so late in the D1. Also I could clarify something nebulous I wrote about my suspicions of Micro or something about my previous experiences as scum.
Edit: SCORE! Catventurer is the friendly neighbor indeed!
Now, what does that change? Not much. She will probably claim soon and be confirmed by another townie. (Heh, it would be funny if she chose to wait to claim and decided to target one of us during the night. Nobody would know that she was Town before her flip.) After that I'd say she is a textbook NK victim. The less confirmed townies around the better for us.
Or maybe we could wait until N3 to dispatch her. I dunno. Let's see how the Day goes.
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Post by The GOGFather on Dec 19, 2023 17:34:23 GMT
"See? It was that piss easy." Nats lightly punched Amanda on the shoulder, as if to encourage her.
Amanda just looked very confused. "I just called her a piece of shit. Nothing else."
Nats grinned widely. "It's all about pressing the right buttons. Karen's the kinda person who deliberately keeps herself out of the spotlight, if you haven't noticed."
"Well, in that case," Amanda scratched her head, "what are my buttons?"
Nats crossed her arms and slightly frowned, then stayed silent for a few seconds. "I'd rather not press your buttons. I don't want to show you some half-assed example."
Amanda put her arms on her hips. "Then go full speed ahead on it, toot toot!"
"If I do that," the pale, foul-mouthed lady wagged her finger as if saying no, "we won't be friends anymore. Let me keep the few friendships I made in here, OK? Okay."
Amanda just shrugged her shoulders and leaned back, picking up her phone from the table. "What's the worst it could be? 'You're a black woman so you're automatically dumb' or something like that?"
"Amanda," Nats glared at her. "I don't push these buttons. I'm not racist, y'know? Unlike the inhabitants of a-"
"Ahahaha," Amanda laughed nervously. "You're really covered in buttons, aren'tcha?" She turned her phone around, to show Nats a white image with a red circle in its middle. An image that immediately put a frown on the Japanese girl.
"Fuck you, I shouldn't have taught you any of that." Nats quickly gave Amanda a middle finger. "Fuck you, fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you"
And so Nats kept dropping her unlimited supplies of her trademark F-bombs for the rest of that Monday.
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Post by atlo on Dec 19, 2023 21:23:58 GMT
And the lurker has awoken with a prod vote... posting the same shit I did... atleast that makes me look somewhat towny like. Still - could've done without the attention. Fuck me...
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Post by atlo on Dec 19, 2023 22:05:11 GMT
For what it's worth -- there's always the possibility that something unexpected and random happens; Micro, Scene and Lift have not yet commented on the current developments. So... there's a coin toss in that department how things may develop... but my current plan is as follows:
Tomorrow: Make a decision. State that I don't view CatV, Lift & Scene as scummy. This leaves you, micro and yogs in my suspect pool. I'ma cast a vote on yogs. For the simple reason he makes low effort posts, seems to be evading questions and generally seems to be the scummiest one. I take it you will still concentrate on micro?
Oh boy... oh shit... I hope I haven't ruined our chances with that pointing at vote maxloed part of your post!!
Plan - subject to change
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Post by joppo on Dec 19, 2023 22:26:57 GMT
... atleast that makes me look somewhat towny like. Still - could've done without the attention. Fuck me... Don't sweat it. The fact you said it first counts against him, plus there's something good to be conquered out of the attention. If they can't find anything wrong with you despite having been spending time under the spotlight it all reverts into he impression that "therefore Atlo must be towny". And you're doing pretty fine at not looking scummy so far. For what it's worth -- there's always the possibility that something unexpected and random happens; Micro, Scene and Lift have not yet commented on the current developments. So... there's a coin toss in that department how things may develop... but my current plan is as follows: Tomorrow: Make a decision. State that I don't view CatV, Lift & Scene as scummy. This leaves you, micro and yogs in my suspect pool. I'ma cast a vote on yogs. For the simple reason he makes low effort posts, seems to be evading questions and generally seems to be the scummiest one. I take it you will still concentrate on micro?Oh boy... oh shit... I hope I haven't ruined our chances with that pointing at vote maxloed part of your post!! Plan - subject to changeTo be honest town!Me would have issues with both Micro and Yogs by now. I will try to concentrate on Micro, but Yog really did mess up over there and made himself prime lynch material. I might not be able to keep away, especially because I already showed suspicion over his screw up.
Don't worry about what you wrote to me. I would find that quite mild if I was actually a townie under attack. I'm writing a post that will probably put to rest any unease you might have awakened over me.
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Post by atlo on Dec 20, 2023 4:04:00 GMT
Your calmness in this situation is admirable. O_o
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Post by joppo on Dec 20, 2023 13:37:20 GMT
Your calmness in this situation is admirable. O_o I can't for the life of me figure out why my Image won't just embed and display, so whatever. HERE is a link you should follow. After reading Scene's #127 I have no doubt that he was the target of Catventurer's night action. |
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Post by atlo on Dec 20, 2023 18:13:17 GMT
I was online and saw you editing the links. xD
Yeah, Scene's shift of tone was one of the first things I noticed when Day 2 started.
If I were CatVenturer and the 2 people who wanted to try and lynch me yesterday suddenly started openly calling me Town -- I'd be paranoid.
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Post by atlo on Dec 21, 2023 13:58:08 GMT
Maybe I'm too paranoid. Maybe I have too strong of an imagination - but right now I see how that newest post from scene might become my death sentence. :'')
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Post by joppo on Dec 21, 2023 16:12:02 GMT
Maybe I'm too paranoid. Maybe I have too strong of an imagination - but right now I see how that newest post from scene might become my death sentence. :'') Why do you think it points to you? Scene basically says that Yog can't be the FN because no one came forward to defend him.
And in fact Scene knows Yog isn't the FN because he knows it's Catventurer. So he thinks Yog is a liar. Why do you think it will turn into your lynch?
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Post by atlo on Dec 21, 2023 16:38:57 GMT
Because I'm paranoid. :''D
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Post by atlo on Dec 21, 2023 16:48:47 GMT
Insane troll logic probably.
As it is - I will lay low for now, but so as not to make a lurking impression will post again something either in a few hours, before bed; or in the early morning hours before work in 11 hours.
I honestly have nothing to comment about microfish... About how I still view yogs as scummiest - yes. Also ask scene where exactly did he see a whisper.
I also struggle to accuse GR of wagon-hopping. But I'm not sure it's wise to ''pick a fight'' so late into the game... I will try to maybe phrase it as ''does it seem odd to you that GR is trying to gauge reactions?'' That might make the impression that I'm still ''trying to solve the game''. OR it might seem weird why I'm pointing this out so late.
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Post by atlo on Dec 21, 2023 17:33:26 GMT
Turns out the others were still posting & commenting while I was writing here. O_o
The flow seems to have reached a crescendo.
I won't stick my head out until 10 hours from now. And even then - only maybe.
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