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Post by pooka on Aug 5, 2023 6:15:52 GMT
No, what's really interesting which you guys haven't pointed at for some reason is that Micro is just standing out from the crowd and waving his arms, asking the lightning to just HIT HIM, to get NIGHTKILLED. You know, if I were Town, didn't know anyone's alignments, and he lives, I'd say that's kinda very fishy already. Does he think Team Mafia have his best interests if he's Team Town? Either that or he is Mafia and he's setting up some sort of play so he doesn't get killed? I dunno. What do you guys think of it?
1. You do realize that I know that you already know who is town and who is mafia.
Are you saying I'm putting myself in a WIFOM situation? Heh.
But I mean, yeah, I know, you know that I know, all that stuff. But if we pretend there's nobody who knows in the game, not even Micro, then him going all lightning rod about it seems sus enough, right?
I believe he claimed vanilla town, but at that point I'm convinced there's no Town power roles left, or else a new game-changer would've appeared by now. So he's not buying time for another power role, I do think.
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Post by The GOGFather on Aug 5, 2023 11:29:29 GMT
1. You do realize that I know that you already know who is town and who is mafia. But do they truly know? I wonder..... ------------------------------------------------- Mod UpdootPrepare for a new arrival to hopefully be joining y'all shortly
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Post by Catventurer on Aug 5, 2023 17:54:51 GMT
1. You do realize that I know that you already know who is town and who is mafia. But do they truly know? I wonder.....
If you do a mafia game where the theme is The Exorcist, then you could use a random number generator to have a different person possessed each night and consequentially have the identity of the mafia also change each night. Having certain roles would grant immunity to possession. In this situation, an eliminated mafia member would not know the identity of their cohort(s).
I'm assuming that you're not doing anything like that where the identity of mafia members can change from what night to the next.
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Post by Catventurer on Aug 5, 2023 17:57:13 GMT
Mod UpdootPrepare for a new arrival to hopefully be joining y'all shortly
Oh and it looks like the night kill went through.
edit - Mom Update: She doesn't have to wear the shoulder brace 24/7, so I was finally able to stick it in the wash.
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Post by The GOGFather on Aug 6, 2023 4:13:05 GMT
Oh and it looks like the night kill went through. I guess one could say that..... --------------------------------------------- Mod UpdateStill haven't gotten a PM reply back from said individual......but they should hopefully reply back and join y'all here in the near future.
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Post by Catventurer on Aug 6, 2023 22:53:47 GMT
Oh and it looks like the night kill went through. I guess one could say that..... --------------------------------------------- Mod UpdateStill haven't gotten a PM reply back from said individual......but they should hopefully reply back and join y'all here in the near future.
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Post by The GOGFather on Aug 7, 2023 1:44:03 GMT
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Post by Catventurer on Aug 7, 2023 2:11:14 GMT
Trent is an interesting night kill choice.
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Post by pooka on Aug 7, 2023 8:07:50 GMT
This is the final day! Will my buddy make it? Or will our cutification invasion end on the final stretch!? FIND OUT IN THE NEXT EPISODE OF
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Post by supplementscene on Aug 7, 2023 14:38:00 GMT
I'm going with Microfish. I don't think he's solving the game at all. Votes for Sage but doesn't say why. He was on Frosty's wagon when it was opportunistic. Voted for Dedo on the penultamate day, when Dedo looked super town because 'he found him difficult to solve'. Was there at deadline and could have hammered himself or Sage but didn't. I also think Sage outed Town when she got upset about my accusations to her to the point she considered subbing out. I don't think Dedo saw this though. If Dedo is the absolute master Mafia team member he comes in straight away and hammers 1 of them. If he talks at all and doesn't hammer, he's certified Town. This is the final day! Will my buddy make it? Or will our cutification invasion end on the final stretch!? FIND OUT IN THE NEXT EPISODE OF I think you hinted earlier in this thread that Micro was your buddy too. Not in itself but you said as town how thorough Micro had been, which is the polar opposite of this game.
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Post by supplementscene on Aug 7, 2023 14:38:49 GMT
Trent is an interesting night kill choice. I think it's because he said Micro was his second choice after Sage
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Post by Catventurer on Aug 7, 2023 16:06:02 GMT
Trent is an interesting night kill choice. I think it's because he said Micro was his second choice after Sage
No. I think Trent is an interesting choice because even though I had not been suspicious of him, a lot of people either thought that he was mafia or were worried that he was mafia. I think that if the game came down to me, Trent, and anyone else then I would have gambled on Trent being town and vote for the other person.
I'm hoping that Dedo votes for Sage though. It isn't because I was suspicious of her earlier in this thread. I would rather loose the game because Micro is mafia and played the town when the Day 3 no lynch happened.... then loose the game because Sage is mafia, and town could have won on Day 3 if Micro changed his vote to Sage to avoid the no lynch. It isn't about winning so much as avoiding what would be a bad loss...
Thus while I'm hoping that Micro (or even Dedo) is mafia, I would still vote Sage.
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Post by Catventurer on Aug 7, 2023 16:32:00 GMT
Mom Update - Things have, unfortunately, taken a turn for the worse. She was having more difficulty dressing herself last night such that I had to provide more assistance thus I got a good look at her back. She's leaning slightly towards the left side and a couple ribs are on the right side of her back are out of place. Messages have been left for both her primary care doctor and the orthopedic specialist that she saw.
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Post by pooka on Aug 7, 2023 17:25:30 GMT
I'm going with Microfish. I don't think he's solving the game at all. Votes for Sage but doesn't say why. He was on Frosty's wagon when it was opportunistic. Voted for Dedo on the penultamate day, when Dedo looked super town because 'he found him difficult to solve'. Was there at deadline and could have hammered himself or Sage but didn't. I also think Sage outed Town when she got upset about my accusations to her to the point she considered subbing out. I don't think Dedo saw this though. If Dedo is the absolute master Mafia team member he comes in straight away and hammers 1 of them. If he talks at all and doesn't hammer, he's certified Town. This is the final day! Will my buddy make it? Or will our cutification invasion end on the final stretch!? FIND OUT IN THE NEXT EPISODE OF I think you hinted earlier in this thread that Micro was your buddy too. Not in itself but you said as town how thorough Micro had been, which is the polar opposite of this game. I keep hinting everyone's my buddy for some reason. Well that might be for the best too, better than other fellow observers reaching an unanimous consensus on who my buddy is. Dedo didn't hammer either one of them so by your logic he's Town. So that means it's Micro and Sage. I think it's because he said Micro was his second choice after Sage No. I think Trent is an interesting choice because even though I had not been suspicious of him, a lot of people either thought that he was mafia or were worried that he was mafia. I think that if the game came down to me, Trent, and anyone else then I would have gambled on Trent being town and vote for the other person.
I'm hoping that Dedo votes for Sage though. It isn't because I was suspicious of her earlier in this thread. I would rather loose the game because Micro is mafia and played the town when the Day 3 no lynch happened.... then loose the game because Sage is mafia, and town could have won on Day 3 if Micro changed his vote to Sage to avoid the no lynch. It isn't about winning so much as avoiding what would be a bad loss... Thus while I'm hoping that Micro (or even Dedo) is mafia, I would still vote Sage. Or Dedo ends up being the ultra-scum and he's pulling the rug from under everyone's feet. Heh. As unlikely as that sounds, it's not really a big problem compared to, well. I think, either way, Town really blundered bad in this game, and a mafia Sage being lynched or a mafia Micro escaping unscathed wouldn't really change that. I'd think it's best to focus on the bits and parts that Town really shined at, and yes, it's you catching me by the collar. There's a non-zero chance I could've cruised along with my buddy to victory, but it's your catch that gave Town the opportunity for a 2v1 stand-off to happen. It's like playing really good at an arcade game only to do a big blunder at the very end but because you're like 5 seconds away from victory, you can still win. Mom Update - Things have, unfortunately, taken a turn for the worse. She was having more difficulty dressing herself last night such that I had to provide more assistance thus I got a good look at her back. She's leaning slightly towards the left side and a couple ribs are on the right side of her back are out of place. Messages have been left for both her primary care doctor and the orthopedic specialist that she saw. Okay, this is seriously bad. I hope that she'll be fine in the end.
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Post by Catventurer on Aug 7, 2023 17:42:12 GMT
Mom Update - Things have, unfortunately, taken a turn for the worse. She was having more difficulty dressing herself last night such that I had to provide more assistance thus I got a good look at her back. She's leaning slightly towards the left side and a couple ribs are on the right side of her back are out of place. Messages have been left for both her primary care doctor and the orthopedic specialist that she saw. Okay, this is seriously bad. I hope that she'll be fine in the end.
Doing some poking around the Internet, which I know doctors don't want you to do... but it turned out to be a good thing in this case because I read that displaced ribs can be repaired by a combination of a lot of rest and physical therapy. For me, it just means more time doing her stuff, listening to her complain about things like I don't sweep up cat litter like I'm the vampires diligently picking up each piece.
I'm not sorry. You're going to get some amount of cat litter on the floor when there are cats. This is why Roombas exist. They're not just battle chariots for cats to sit on.
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Post by Catventurer on Aug 7, 2023 17:45:49 GMT
No. I think Trent is an interesting choice because even though I had not been suspicious of him, a lot of people either thought that he was mafia or were worried that he was mafia. I think that if the game came down to me, Trent, and anyone else then I would have gambled on Trent being town and vote for the other person.
I'm hoping that Dedo votes for Sage though. It isn't because I was suspicious of her earlier in this thread. I would rather loose the game because Micro is mafia and played the town when the Day 3 no lynch happened.... then loose the game because Sage is mafia, and town could have won on Day 3 if Micro changed his vote to Sage to avoid the no lynch. It isn't about winning so much as avoiding what would be a bad loss... Thus while I'm hoping that Micro (or even Dedo) is mafia, I would still vote Sage. Or Dedo ends up being the ultra-scum and he's pulling the rug from under everyone's feet. Heh. As unlikely as that sounds, it's not really a big problem compared to, well. I think, either way, Town really blundered bad in this game, and a mafia Sage being lynched or a mafia Micro escaping unscathed wouldn't really change that. I'd think it's best to focus on the bits and parts that Town really shined at, and yes, it's you catching me by the collar. There's a non-zero chance I could've cruised along with my buddy to victory, but it's your catch that gave Town the opportunity for a 2v1 stand-off to happen. It's like playing really good at an arcade game only to do a big blunder at the very end but because you're like 5 seconds away from victory, you can still win.
If Dedo ends up being ultra-scum, then mafia team more than earned the win.
edit - I accidentally hit post too soon on this one. However the fact that Dedo didn't look at two people voting against each other and cast a vote himself that would end the game says that he's not Mafia. Pooka's Teammate is either Micro or Sage.
I still think it's Sage.
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Post by CarnethystPhoenix on Aug 7, 2023 18:18:48 GMT
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Post by Catventurer on Aug 7, 2023 19:59:31 GMT
I am sorry. I have never been on Mafia Universe and really do not know what I am looking at here.
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Post by CarnethystPhoenix on Aug 7, 2023 20:27:16 GMT
I am sorry. I have never been on Mafia Universe and really do not know what I am looking at here.
The three mafia stacked together on a single wagon by themselves while two town wagons are at four each without any mafia on them.
Not that you're wrong that mafia don't normally stack but it's not fully clearing at all.
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Post by Catventurer on Aug 7, 2023 22:07:07 GMT
I am sorry. I have never been on Mafia Universe and really do not know what I am looking at here.
The three mafia stacked together on a single wagon by themselves while two town wagons are at four each without any mafia on them.
Not that you're wrong that mafia don't normally stack but it's not fully clearing at all.
You're debating with my logic for why investigated Pooka in the first place as if I should have picked someone else. You're just going to have the accept the fact that I'm not wrong all the time. - I was right to investigate Pooka as he turned out to be mafia. - I was right to not be suspicious of Trent. - The fact that Dedo is going off to think and hasn't cast a vote to end the game says that he's not mafia, so I'm right there too.
Also something that I think you're forgetting about Sage is her voting record:
Day 1 - Frost (town-aligned) Day 2 - nobody Day 3 - Scene (town-aligned) Day 4 & 5 - Micro
Day 2 is just weird. I mean she spends most of Day 2 on this campaign against me. It felt like she was pushing harder against me than Pooka, which is just flat out strange considering that she didn't vote to have me lynched even once. Instead I saw things like Trent votes to lynch Pooka, then Sage convinces him to retract his vote.... and she still doesn't vote to lynch me.
Speaking for myself entirely on this. If I'm willing to give someone that much push back that I go around convincing other people to change their vote and not vote how that person wants, I'm also going to commit to voting to have that person lynched.
I've been sitting here thinking that maybe she's mafia, tried to save Pooka on Day 2, but doesn't want to be seen actually voting to lynch someone who is a town-aligned person that outed Pooka as mafia and is claiming to have an investigation role.
I would prefer that the remaining mafia member be Micro or Dedo, but I do think that it is Sage.
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Post by CarnethystPhoenix on Aug 7, 2023 22:29:58 GMT
I Thought you were clearing Micro off of Pooka, oops. I Didn't see Sage exactly pushing you but I could be wrong since I haven't exactly read d2 in full. I'm pretty sure I found something from Sage that was confirming my town clear there recently but I'll have to dig for it since I don't remember.
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Post by CarnethystPhoenix on Aug 7, 2023 22:40:07 GMT
#471 might be what I was thinking of. Definitely very very towny. I Thought there was some towny PoV thingy I found but it would take me forever to dig it out if it exists so I won't bother.
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Post by Catventurer on Aug 8, 2023 0:25:37 GMT
#471 might be what I was thinking of. Definitely very very towny. I Thought there was some towny PoV thingy I found but it would take me forever to dig it out if it exists so I won't bother.
It's not just me. If you look at post #447 (Day 3), Trent comments how Sage had been spending the game trying to not make any waves except for on Day 2 when she was going after me specifically.
I think he noticed that Sage spent all Day 2 trying to undermine my credibility and pushing hard against me while at the same time she doesn't place any votes at all on Day 2.
I think that Trent was night killed so that Micro would become suspicious of Dedo and mistakenly vote for him for no reason other than that Dedo wasn't night killed for two nights now. This would allow Sage to vote for Dedo also and win the game for mafia.
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Post by The GOGFather on Aug 8, 2023 0:59:37 GMT
Doing some poking around the Internet, which I know doctors don't want you to do... but it turned out to be a good thing in this case because I read that displaced ribs can be repaired by a combination of a lot of rest and physical therapy. For me, it just means more time doing her stuff, listening to her complain about things like I don't sweep up cat litter like I'm the vampires diligently picking up each piece. Just wanted to say that I echo Pooka's sentiment: I hope your mum's new issue isn't too bad, and that she heals up as soon as possible(for both of your sakes)
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Post by CarnethystPhoenix on Aug 8, 2023 1:05:52 GMT
#471 might be what I was thinking of. Definitely very very towny. I Thought there was some towny PoV thingy I found but it would take me forever to dig it out if it exists so I won't bother.
It's not just me. If you look at post #447 (Day 3), Trent comments how Sage had been spending the game trying to not make any waves except for on Day 2 when she was going after me specifically.
I think he noticed that Sage spent all Day 2 trying to undermine my credibility and pushing hard against me while at the same time she doesn't place any votes at all on Day 2.
I think that Trent was night killed so that Micro would become suspicious of Dedo and mistakenly vote for him for no reason other than that Dedo wasn't night killed for two nights now. This would allow Sage to vote for Dedo also and win the game for mafia.
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The only reason scum!Sage would keep Dedo alive is to make them paranoid of Scene.
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Post by CarnethystPhoenix on Aug 8, 2023 1:30:59 GMT
It actually is Sage actually because Micro kinda undermined my perspective slip-ish read and it's strange for them to miss the EoD time like that as mafia.
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Post by CarnethystPhoenix on Aug 8, 2023 1:32:12 GMT
No idea what's going through Micro's head though and Dedo will probably end up voting them in the end.
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Post by Catventurer on Aug 8, 2023 2:13:47 GMT
Oh hey! I figured out how to reply to two people in one post. So..... Doing some poking around the Internet, which I know doctors don't want you to do... but it turned out to be a good thing in this case because I read that displaced ribs can be repaired by a combination of a lot of rest and physical therapy. For me, it just means more time doing her stuff, listening to her complain about things like I don't sweep up cat litter like I'm the vampires diligently picking up each piece. Just wanted to say that I echo Pooka's sentiment: I hope your mum's new issue isn't too bad, and that she heals up as soon as possible(for both of your sakes) Thanks! Fortunately, she's been compliant for the most part thus also giving me more computer time. Also I picked up Wizardry 6-8 today because they were on sale, and you can have Felpurrs in your party. (Felpurrs are a race of cat people.) It's not just me. If you look at post #447 (Day 3), Trent comments how Sage had been spending the game trying to not make any waves except for on Day 2 when she was going after me specifically. I think he noticed that Sage spent all Day 2 trying to undermine my credibility and pushing hard against me while at the same time she doesn't place any votes at all on Day 2. I think that Trent was night killed so that Micro would become suspicious of Dedo and mistakenly vote for him for no reason other than that Dedo wasn't night killed for two nights now. This would allow Sage to vote for Dedo also and win the game for mafia. k The only reason scum!Sage would keep Dedo alive is to make them paranoid of Scene.
You need to look at the overall game.
Night 2 Kill - Me. It wasn't retribution for taking out Pooka. It was because Sage spent all of Day 2 campaigning against me then didn't vote at all. There's no way that I wasn't going to notice that at some point. I had to go before I could bring this up and hopefully nobody else would notice. Trent did though.
Night 3 Kill - Scene. I thought it was going to be Dedo, and Dedo made the comment in the game thread that he thought that he was going to be the kill. Pooka commented in this thread that Scene could be an option, and it turned out to be Scene. In hindsight, I think there's several reasons for this. 1) Scene has been all over the place with his accusations, primarily against other town-aligned people. 2) He was one of the people that could have voted for Sage to end Day 3 in a lynch but didn't. 3) Getting rid of Scene focuses things more on Micro. 4) Dedo had a lot of concerns that Trent was mafia.
Night 4 Kill - Trent. I think Trent was taken out because he noticed what Sage was doing on Day 2 and was dead set about lynching her on Day 3, when the no lynch occurred. While he made the comment on Day 4 that he wasn't sure if he should vote to lynch Micro over the no lynch or stick with his suspicions of Sage, it still meant that he was overall very likely to vote to lynch her. Eliminating Dedo wasn't even an option at this point. Micro was going to stay alive so that he would possibly get mislynched as you'll notice that Sage was quick to vote against him. Trent was taken out because keeping him alive wasn't an option.
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Post by The GOGFather on Aug 8, 2023 2:41:37 GMT
Also I picked up Wizardry 6-8 today because they were on sale, and you can have Felpurrs in your party. (Felpurrs are a race of cat people.) I actually have Wiz8 on physical disc, and also on GOG. Lovely game, with only a few flaws. (one of the things is the very slow animations during fighting sequences, which can be very daunting to a player when they keep running up against 10-15 enemies at once in some areas and then need to wait while each enemy/party member takes their turn.....luckily there is a mod to speed this up, so each encounter doesn't take 10 minutes or longer to complete) ------------------------- Mod UpdootI have written the bulk of both possible EndGame flavor texts.....just waiting to see who votes whom, etc etc. (p.s. I wonder if anyone has guessed what the twist with Trent will be, in terms of EndGame )
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Post by Catventurer on Aug 8, 2023 3:13:24 GMT
No idea what's going through Micro's head though and Dedo will probably end up voting them in the end. O ye of little faith..... All Dedo has to do is realize that Trent was his ally all along and read back on his comments from Day 3 and 4. He then notice that Trent saw how Sage had been trying very hard to make no waves, except for Day 2 when she was pushing hard against me without voting.... as if she knew that going so far as to cast a vote against someone who was going to come back with an investigation role would look bad but she didn't want to vote for her ally Pooka either. Also some of Dedo's thinking has been similar to my own - referring to how we both thought he would be the kill on Night 3. He may similarly decide that it is better to lose the game because Micro is mafia-aligned then to loose the game because two town-aligned people wouldn't vote to lynch mafia-aligned Sage on Day 3. That alone is reason enough to vote to lynch Sage if nothing else.
Also I picked up Wizardry 6-8 today because they were on sale, and you can have Felpurrs in your party. (Felpurrs are a race of cat people.) I actually have Wiz8 on physical disc, and also on GOG. Lovely game, with only a few flaws. (one of the things is the very slow animations during fighting sequences, which can be very daunting to a player when they keep running up against 10-15 enemies at once in some areas and then need to wait while each enemy/party member takes their turn.....luckily there is a mod to speed this up, so each encounter doesn't take 10 minutes or longer to complete) ------------------------- Mod UpdootI have written the bulk of both possible EndGame flavor texts.....just waiting to see who votes whom, etc etc. (p.s. I wonder if anyone has guessed what the twist with Trent will be, in terms of EndGame )
Only 10-15 enemies at once? Which I'm saying as someone who has played and completed Might and Magic 2 when random encounters can be a massive stack of 100+ enemies that you fight, and everyone gets to take a turn so you better figure out how to take them all town very fast.
If battles are taking too long, I can always play Hungry Cat Picross on my iPhone at the same time.
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Since we're approaching the end, I think it is now safe for me to reveal what I was told would happen if I had decided to investigate someone on Night 1 when mafia showed up to kill that same person. However I'm going to put my own spin on it.
Scenario:
Person Being Killed/Investigated: Micro Mafia Team: Pooka, Sage Town Investigator: Me
So Pooka and Sage are breaking into Micro's room to murder him. He doesn't try crawling through the ventilation shaft, go out a window, or anything to escape. No, he just sits there and waits for them to show up.
They break down the door. He asks if he should call for help.
They say sure, so he just says "Help" a few time but not too loudly because other people are sleeping.
They start to strangle Micro, when I walk in. Micro points towards me, causing Pooka and Sage to stop their murdering.
We all exchange pleasantries, then I state that I'm the town-aligned investigator and here to confirm Micro's alignment. He proclaims, "TOWN!"
I give him a thumbs up then tell Pooka and Sage to carry on with their murdering. I turn to leave as Micro says "Help" one last time to no avail.
The next morning, Micro turns up dead... only he's not really dead. He's just laying there playing dead to the extent that he says, "I'm dead" any time someone looks in his direction. I don't remember that I encountered both mafia and should know who they are. The two mafia don't remember that they technically got busted by the investigator to the extent that they don't even remember that there is an investigator.
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