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Post by Catventurer on Jul 30, 2023 15:35:32 GMT
Dedo's comment is correct. If there is a lynch and it's not mafia, then mafia wins provided that the night kill goes through. It is better to do a no lynch and force mafia to do another night kill, hoping that the two remaining town-aligned people will vote to eliminate the mafia.
Also I do not believe that the remaining mafia has some special ability......
BUT I can't go into it at the moment. I found a lump on the dog's face that looks like it could be really really infected so need to go to the vet ER.
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Post by Catventurer on Jul 30, 2023 17:49:28 GMT
The dog emergency turned out to not be an emergency. There is a lump on her fact that is oozing and bleeding, but it wasn't infected or anything like that where immediate surgery needs to be done. It should be removed but can wait until dog's regular vet can do it, which won't be as costly.
Anyway as far as night actions go, I think this game is very vanilla where mafia team doesn't have any night powers except their night kill. Maybe there's a one shot guaranteed kill, but that's probably it.
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Post by supplementscene on Jul 30, 2023 18:32:38 GMT
The dog emergency turned out to not be an emergency. There is a lump on her fact that is oozing and bleeding, but it wasn't infected or anything like that where immediate surgery needs to be done. It should be removed but can wait until dog's regular vet can do it, which won't be as costly. Anyway as far as night actions go, I think this game is very vanilla where mafia team doesn't have any night powers except their night kill. Maybe there's a one shot guaranteed kill, but that's probably it. I didn't know you also had a love for dogs CatV. I had a horrible morning walking my female springer spaniel. We walked around a corner on a footpath and saw a male XL bully (A much bigger pitbull bred for fighting) and as soon as it saw my sweet none aggressive dog it sprinted towards her with it's teeth out biting at her as she squeeled in absolute pain. The owner pulled it off. And I felt helpless and in shock a monster had just attacked my dog. I checked my dog for wounds and couldn't find them initially but when we got home we did find her bleeding under her leg
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Post by Catventurer on Jul 30, 2023 19:42:37 GMT
The dog emergency turned out to not be an emergency. There is a lump on her fact that is oozing and bleeding, but it wasn't infected or anything like that where immediate surgery needs to be done. It should be removed but can wait until dog's regular vet can do it, which won't be as costly. Anyway as far as night actions go, I think this game is very vanilla where mafia team doesn't have any night powers except their night kill. Maybe there's a one shot guaranteed kill, but that's probably it. I didn't know you also had a love for dogs CatV. I had a horrible morning walking my female springer spaniel. We walked around a corner on a footpath and saw a male XL bully (A much bigger pitbull bred for fighting) and as soon as it saw my sweet none aggressive dog it sprinted towards her with it's teeth out biting at her as she squeeled in absolute pain. The owner pulled it off. And I felt helpless and in shock a monster had just attacked my dog. I checked my dog for wounds and couldn't find them initially but when we got home we did find her bleeding under her leg
I am dog indifferent. I don't love or hate dogs. I can go through the motions of proving for a dog in a pinch, but someone else in the house really does need to be the primary carer for the dog. I don't think it's fair to an animal to adopt it if you are not able to determine its wants and needs. Sure dogs were breed to be subserviant and obedient to humans, but they have to want something.
There are currently four cats in the house and if one of them meows, I could tell you exactly who spoke and what they want. My own cat doesn't vocalize much and communicates primarily through what I call Cat Sign Language (body posture, tail twitches, whisker twitches, ear position, etc.) I have no trouble reading what he's saying. I also have an easier time understanding the small lizards I see at the pet shop than with dogs. (Sorry dogs.)
Around here, there really are a lot of people that just let their dogs walk off leash then will act like it's entirely your fault that their dog attacked you and/or your dog. There's also people that use the dog park as free dog training. I think that a lot of the problem is that you have all these television dog behaviorist shows giving dog owners bad advise for free.
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Post by The GOGFather on Jul 31, 2023 2:25:40 GMT
The dog emergency turned out to not be an emergency. There is a lump on her fact that is oozing and bleeding, but it wasn't infected or anything like that where immediate surgery needs to be done. It should be removed but can wait until dog's regular vet can do it, which won't be as costly. I'm glad to hear that the issue wasn't as bad as you thought.....I also hope that everything is going well(or well enough) with your other pets. I checked my dog for wounds and couldn't find them initially but when we got home we did find her bleeding under her leg I'm sorry to hear that such a nasty thing happened to your canine friend......I hope/pray that it isn't too serious, and that they heal quickly.
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Post by CarnethystPhoenix on Jul 31, 2023 2:58:24 GMT
It should just be Trent. I Find it unlikely that Sage derped how they did as mafia. I Find it impossible that Micro apologized during the night for something that they did intentionally. I Find Dedo to be pretty much impossible to be scum as well. The kill makes sense from any of them unfortunately but it makes less sense from Sage.
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Post by supplementscene on Jul 31, 2023 7:32:11 GMT
It should just be Trent. I Find it unlikely that Sage derped how they did as mafia. I Find it impossible that Micro apologized during the night for something that they did intentionally. I Find Dedo to be pretty much impossible to be scum as well. The kill makes sense from any of them unfortunately but it makes less sense from Sage. I'm back to thinking it's Trent. I think Sage's taking accusations of being Mafia as OMGUS and wanting to quit the game because of it, kind of outed her as Town. Like you say Micro saying he forgot after deadline probably looks more town. I'm not sure why you cleared him before this though? Also yes Dedo has just been solid Town for a while now With Trent also on Day 3 he said he was convinced the Scum was Sage and said I was probably Town. Then he said Sage and Scene were his scum reads. Now he says the last Scum is in Micro and Sage. He was convinced Sage was scum and now he's flip flopping. Given I now think Sage is Town he looks worse in my book. So let's say Day 4 = no lynch. Dedo says Trent is town, so Dedo is kept alive and Micro is NK'ed. Dedo and Trent were willing to lynch Sage on Day 3 so it stands to reason they do so on Day 5. Unless Dedo second guesses why he's still alive and why Micro was NK'ed.
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Post by Catventurer on Jul 31, 2023 21:36:27 GMT
So let's say Day 4 = no lynch. Dedo says Trent is town, so Dedo is kept alive and Micro is NK'ed. Dedo and Trent were willing to lynch Sage on Day 3 so it stands to reason they do so on Day 5. Unless Dedo second guesses why he's still alive and why Micro was NK'ed.
I think that Pooka had an idea, and I think that I figured it out as well... which means, that I'm sure that Dedo is going to figure out why he's still alive regardless of if he says anything about it.
I originally thought that Dedo would be the next night kill just so that Micro and you could go at each other on Day 4, possibly causing another no lynch. However after Dedo suggested doing a deliberate no lynch to force Pooka's teammate into narrowing things down further, it occurred to me that the reason Dedo is alive is because Mafia doesn't want another no lynch. If there's a mislynch, then mafia wins provided that the night kill goes through.
I think that Mafia looked at Scene and Micro then decided to night kill Scene because it would be easier to mislynch Micro... plus with Scene out of the way, it's harder for Micro to say "but Scene contributed to the no lynch also." Well Scene is confirmed town because he was the night kill. Micro needs to stop hiding behind people who are out of the game.
Also I still think that Sage is Pooka's Mafia Teammate.
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Post by CarnethystPhoenix on Aug 1, 2023 16:00:52 GMT
Micro feels like they're openwolfing ugh.
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Post by supplementscene on Aug 1, 2023 19:50:09 GMT
Trents last post looks even more like Scum to me. Almost like he's signaling to Pooka that 'hey bro, we've got this won son'
In turn Sage is absolutely all over the place. But I do tend to think it's Town all over the place with OMGUS thinking.
Micro is currently pretty much unreadable to me with his level of input. Could be either role
Trent is my most expected Mafia member though by a decent degree.
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Post by Catventurer on Aug 2, 2023 0:39:14 GMT
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Post by The GOGFather on Aug 2, 2023 9:37:11 GMT
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Post by Catventurer on Aug 2, 2023 18:21:21 GMT
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Post by CarnethystPhoenix on Aug 3, 2023 0:43:02 GMT
"if I live" gives me chills for a reason I could substantiate on if I wished.
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Post by CarnethystPhoenix on Aug 3, 2023 0:56:27 GMT
Yeah Micro is mafia that doesn't come from town but they said it to try not to scumslip.
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Post by CarnethystPhoenix on Aug 3, 2023 0:57:45 GMT
They probably unironically forgot when EoD was based on the post during the previous night?
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Post by CarnethystPhoenix on Aug 3, 2023 1:01:53 GMT
Or at least Micro has a low chance of being town here. That would be an odd situation and they will likely be CFTWR if it's true.
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Post by CarnethystPhoenix on Aug 3, 2023 1:06:06 GMT
I Think Micro will very very likely get lynched if Trent dies, but if Dedo dies IDK what will happen.
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Post by supplementscene on Aug 3, 2023 7:15:57 GMT
Yeah Micro is mafia that doesn't come from town but they said it to try not to scumslip. Didn't you clear him based on a comment from the prior night? Anyway is this a 'Mod slip'. There's no point in delaying the game if Micro does get NK'ed and has the Mafia had time to vote yet? If Mafia haven't yet voted then Micro is Scum and the mod slipped. But Mafia may have voted for their NK and it maybe someone who isn't Micro
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Post by CarnethystPhoenix on Aug 3, 2023 13:34:31 GMT
Yeah Micro is mafia that doesn't come from town but they said it to try not to scumslip. Didn't you clear him based on a comment from the prior night? Anyway is this a 'Mod slip'. There's no point in delaying the game if Micro does get NK'ed and has the Mafia had time to vote yet? If Mafia haven't yet voted then Micro is Scum and the mod slipped. But Mafia may have voted for their NK and it maybe someone who isn't Micro I Very much doubt that Micro hasn't selected someone yet.
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Post by pooka on Aug 3, 2023 20:30:33 GMT
Sorry I haven't been here for a while
Life going down like water in a drain, I hope to at least entertain you for tonight
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Post by pooka on Aug 3, 2023 20:55:39 GMT
Dedo's Confirmed Town unless this is a huge gambit, he will be Night Killed tonight - I never thought of this: 'What we could and probably should do Today is No-Lynch. That would mean we'll be closing the Day at 3 vs 1, the scum will take out 1 for 2 vs 1 and we'll still have Tomorrow to do pretty much what is happening Today but with on person fewer in the suspects pool. If the NK fails we'll wake up Tomorrow in the exact same situation as Today so nothing would be lost..... Mathematically this is the correct decision. The only potential situation in which this can turn out sour is if the scum has some sort of special ability that can make use of the extra Night action we'll be giving them and win Tonight.' No-lynching for better town odds isn't something new or revolutionary. ZFR came up with the idea in a previous game, suggesting this would decrease the Townie pool and make the process of sussing out the sus easier.
And yes, it is mathematically the correct decision. ZFR broke down how it worked as well. So Dedo is min-maxing Town's odds of winning. Though I'll say that idea shouldn't make you automatically Townread Dedo. For one, he could use said special ability himself, for example.
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Post by pooka on Aug 3, 2023 21:03:58 GMT
My prediction is that Day 4 will end with either Micro lynched or another no lynch. That aged like fine wine. GTH it's Trent and they're just shaken. Trent doesn't seem that super active and I think that means he's opening the doors for other people to run circles around him. It'd be interesting to see how he moves from there.
And that... aged like milk.
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Post by pooka on Aug 3, 2023 21:14:51 GMT
Sorry to hear about your dogs, scene and Catventurer. The pitbull biting thing is also ridiculous. Like why raise your dog to be a monster? What's the point? Mine is the kind who can't stand one of us being outside, but especially Mom. She leaves home, he just goes to sleep under the chair in front of the door, waiting for her to come back. And when she does, oh the crying, the tail wagging, the excitement. I'm just as excited to see him and as he is to see me. What's so fun about having a dog with an insatiable urge to kill anything that moves again?
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Post by pooka on Aug 3, 2023 21:25:55 GMT
Trents last post looks even more like Scum to me. Almost like he's signaling to Pooka that 'hey bro, we've got this won son' In turn Sage is absolutely all over the place. But I do tend to think it's Town all over the place with OMGUS thinking. Micro is currently pretty much unreadable to me with his level of input. Could be either role Trent is my most expected Mafia member though by a decent degree. #526? Yeah, and wait... he's also telling my teammate to tell me what he said... when I'm still around to read it :P That standing ovation though
If he lives... well that bit, "I'm never voting you [dedo]" should be very sus. Like if we were suppose Trent is town, then he's going to let Dedo win even if he's scum. But to be fair, I think that's in character for Trent, come to think about it.
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Post by Catventurer on Aug 3, 2023 21:37:41 GMT
Sorry to hear about your dogs, scene and Catventurer. The pitbull biting thing is also ridiculous. Like why raise your dog to be a monster? What's the point? Mine is the kind who can't stand one of us being outside, but especially Mom. She leaves home, he just goes to sleep under the chair in front of the door, waiting for her to come back. And when she does, oh the crying, the tail wagging, the excitement. I'm just as excited to see him and as he is to see me. What's so fun about having a dog with an insatiable urge to kill anything that moves again?
I had a cat with separation anxiety that would pace around the house looking for me, meowing excessively, and rejecting the efforts of anyone else to comfort the cat when I left the house, which made the big greeting not worth it. The vet put her on anti-anxiety medication that did improve her quality of life. I was still #1 with my cat, but she could at least tolerate me leaving the house.
At least your dog just waits under the chair for your mom!
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Post by pooka on Aug 3, 2023 21:41:05 GMT
Yeah Micro is mafia that doesn't come from town but they said it to try not to scumslip. Didn't you clear him based on a comment from the prior night? Anyway is this a 'Mod slip'. There's no point in delaying the game if Micro does get NK'ed and has the Mafia had time to vote yet? If Mafia haven't yet voted then Micro is Scum and the mod slipped. But Mafia may have voted for their NK and it maybe someone who isn't Micro Team Mafia Ex-Representative with you here! I'm not sure you noticed, but GR has been generous with deadline extensions and usually accommodating of real life issues affecting anyone. GR basically just extended the deadline to right after the weekend - hell in some communities the game gets effectively PAUSED on weekends. I for one like to enjoy my weekends, and would really love it if in the future, participation on a weekend is exempt from the 48 hour rule (I'm not sure how to effectively implement it though). Mafia is a game that goes on and on, after all. Notice that GR says it's in consideration of Micro and others who are not gonna give the game proper attention on weekends. You can say Micro jogged GR's memory that weekends are an important feature of modern human society lest it break down more than it already is. So no, it's not a mod slip that Micro is scum.
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Post by pooka on Aug 3, 2023 21:44:13 GMT
Sorry to hear about your dogs, scene and Catventurer. The pitbull biting thing is also ridiculous. Like why raise your dog to be a monster? What's the point? Mine is the kind who can't stand one of us being outside, but especially Mom. She leaves home, he just goes to sleep under the chair in front of the door, waiting for her to come back. And when she does, oh the crying, the tail wagging, the excitement. I'm just as excited to see him and as he is to see me. What's so fun about having a dog with an insatiable urge to kill anything that moves again?
I had a cat with separation anxiety that would pace around the house looking for me, meowing excessively, and rejecting the efforts of anyone else to comfort the cat when I left the house, which made the big greeting not worth it. The vet put her on anti-anxiety medication that did improve her quality of life. I was still #1 with my cat, but she could at least tolerate me leaving the house.
At least your dog just waits under the chair for your mom!
To be fair, he still whines and howls when Mom leaves and a little bit after. He'll also do the same when he thinks she's come back and just outside the door. I couldn't have wished for such a loving family member, gosh.
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Post by pooka on Aug 3, 2023 21:54:32 GMT
No, what's really interesting which you guys haven't pointed at for some reason is that Micro is just standing out from the crowd and waving his arms, asking the lightning to just HIT HIM, to get NIGHTKILLED.
You know, if I were Town, didn't know anyone's alignments, and he lives, I'd say that's kinda very fishy already. Does he think Team Mafia have his best interests if he's Team Town? Either that or he is Mafia and he's setting up some sort of play so he doesn't get killed? I dunno. What do you guys think of it?
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Post by Catventurer on Aug 3, 2023 23:36:51 GMT
No, what's really interesting which you guys haven't pointed at for some reason is that Micro is just standing out from the crowd and waving his arms, asking the lightning to just HIT HIM, to get NIGHTKILLED. You know, if I were Town, didn't know anyone's alignments, and he lives, I'd say that's kinda very fishy already. Does he think Team Mafia have his best interests if he's Team Town? Either that or he is Mafia and he's setting up some sort of play so he doesn't get killed? I dunno. What do you guys think of it?
1. You do realize that I know that you already know who is town and who is mafia.
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