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Post by pooka on Jul 14, 2023 13:57:57 GMT
That post took a lot of effort to write, but I'm glad it's out. I've set my expectations low anyhow, Town might as well win this game by not lynching players who act scummy. And honestly that's how Catventurer is playing every part of it. I know she's Town and if anything I should be the one to get lynched, but... it's kinda perplexing.
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Post by sage103082 on Jul 14, 2023 14:11:30 GMT
She says " Essentially I broke into someone's quarters. However that's a bit of a misstatement as the lock on their door had already been tampered with.... So I just let myself in while they were apparently gone, snooped around, saw signs of a struggle, and a slime trails. Susians (aka Mafia) secrete slime apparently when they nab people to convert them. Anyway, I scanned the slime with the Sens-O-Lux, which confirmed that the slime was residue from a Susinan (Mafia) conversion."
So is she suggestion the struggle is from when you got converted before day 1 started? Cause you would you think anyone would see slime in your room since we wonder the halls like walking dead at night..
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Post by sage103082 on Jul 14, 2023 14:21:42 GMT
I call it Clue.
I honestly never thought so much about the mechanics of a game as I have during this one. Call me old fashioned but I was used to night actions are applied as they come in and no bumps in the hallways at night. Thats how stations wagons are made.
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Post by sage103082 on Jul 14, 2023 14:25:42 GMT
/waves to anyone reading this in the future. Sorry for the horrible spelling.
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Post by pooka on Jul 14, 2023 15:30:53 GMT
So is she suggestion the struggle is from when you got converted before day 1 started? Cause you would you think anyone would see slime in your room since we wonder the halls like walking dead at night.. You know, I hadn't thought of that possibility. That the original SUSian that got the boot is how there's signs of struggle in my own room.
But please do not mention that possibility in the thread.
Town is already lazy as it is this game. I bet they all forgot about the original SUSian just like how they consistently missed GR talking about nightkill chances. We keep this under wraps, and Catventurer might get the good old "Catventurer was not the impostor" message.
Otherwise... my next-to-final defense card will be wasted.
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Post by pooka on Jul 14, 2023 15:36:18 GMT
I call it Clue. I honestly never thought so much about the mechanics of a game as I have during this one. Call me old fashioned but I was used to night actions are applied as they come in and no bumps in the hallways at night. Thats how stations wagons are made. This game looks as straightforward as ever and the flavor doesn't actually play a very big part in the game, apart from it being the influence for everyone's incompetence (which are then built into the roles). Catventurer made it needlessly complicated and that thankfully works as an attack vector.
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Post by sage103082 on Jul 14, 2023 16:35:47 GMT
It doesnt look like trent is going to move off of you. Catv is dying on her hill by now self-voting. I think micro and scene are mia in the votes
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Post by pooka on Jul 14, 2023 16:58:30 GMT
Trent ignoring my nitpicking of the flavor should honestly get a lot of pause from Townies.
Welp, it looks my next-to-final defense card didn't do much anyway. I'd like to think that Micro or Scene would sway in my direction, and Catventurer keeps self-voting herself long enough for you to hammer "to avoid no-lynch".
But having her lynched on D2 might not be that great of an idea to be honest. For one, we could nightkill another guy, and she stays alive for the rest of the game. Maybe. Actually probably not, the whole chances thing might not be in our favor of muddying the waters. What I fear is Catventurer living and becoming an Innocent Child-like player. What I would like is Catventurer not living to see me lynched on D3, or she lives long enough to see herself become the villain (in the eyes of Town anyway).
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Post by sage103082 on Jul 14, 2023 17:40:25 GMT
It should get looked at but more tomorrow if what she says is a lie and you flip town. But the town thing to do is lynch you and then lynch her if needed. Also, from which townies? Mirco is minimal in posting and scene is mia. CatV has made it easier to keep my vote off her with how she has handled my questions.
She is my pick for NK tonight.
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Post by sage103082 on Jul 14, 2023 17:41:03 GMT
Though I wondered if I picked trent would it work as we already damaged the door so that wouldn't be an issue anymore.
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Post by pooka on Jul 14, 2023 19:42:22 GMT
Though I wondered if I picked trent would it work as we already damaged the door so that wouldn't be an issue anymore. If you feel there's an opening, go for it. Hell, I'd also have you vote Trent because of the "flavor doesn't matter" stuff.
Chances are it might work and Town gets confuzzled enough that they end up... not voting anyone out today. It's like Catventurer said, the only way I can hope to even see D4 is if a no lynch happens. In that scenario leaving Catventurer alive and offing someone else might raise some eyebrows, but I wouldn't count it. She might be lying about her scanning abilities breaking, and end up busting you next.
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Post by sage103082 on Jul 14, 2023 21:45:11 GMT
Do you feel I should vote you? or do you think I should wait, i have been hoping for scene to show up since he is on trent. catv will switch her vote as soon as someone else votes you. I fear me staying off will bring attention tomorrow. But I so do not want to bus you.. What do you think??
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Post by The GOGFather on Jul 15, 2023 2:18:14 GMT
Here is a wiki of gadgets used in the book. I know I looked up the name of what catv refered ( Sens-O-Lux ) to and found The Sub-Etha Sens-O-Matic is a device that alerts hitchhikers to passing spacecraft, by monitoring ships' Sub-Etha signals.and Sens-O-Tape (maybe)Interesting fact: I didn't refer to Hitchhiker's Guide when coming up with the device's name. CatV has made it easier to keep my vote off her with how she has handled my questions. She is my pick for NK tonight. Since we are now in Night 2: Is this your final answer?(you are more than free to wait till closer to the deadline and think about your choice some more) End of Night 2
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Post by sage103082 on Jul 15, 2023 8:50:50 GMT
Pooka I am sorry I missed it, we lost power last night and i got up at 430am to check and see i missed it.
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Post by sage103082 on Jul 15, 2023 17:35:46 GMT
No it is not my final answer.
I am torn between trent and catv. I am going to think on for a bit.
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Post by sage103082 on Jul 15, 2023 17:44:12 GMT
This is just me rationalizing it for myself and not placing any votes yet. Trent im hoping the door lock being tampered with is a good thing and will allow me to go right in, catv seems to refer to the locks multiple times: trent mentions in one of his posts to dedo that if dedo reads this past day scum will be seen. Well scene hasn't posted, mico has posted minimal, trent has had he find cattv town, so that leaves me. Catv has been vocal about me towards the end but I think she is baiting me to go after her, I think her device isn't broken, I think the locks have a possible play in her ability too as she stated the lock was broken before she got there. I feel if I pick her it may show me as scum. I think it's a bit messed up for catv to lie about me having a issue with who she picked for nk. I never had an issue with it. I had issues with her lies and how she seems to have more information than she is sharing. However, Catv suspects me and if she is gone would make the game easier for me. ARRGH
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Post by sage103082 on Jul 15, 2023 17:47:17 GMT
However if I pick trent and leave my room, and her machine is working all she needs to do is go to my room and get the scum results, Seems I do not have to be there.
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Post by sage103082 on Jul 15, 2023 19:31:11 GMT
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Post by The GOGFather on Jul 15, 2023 22:42:59 GMT
Firstly: Nice taste in film. Secondly: There's no need to be glum.....I told Pooka that their ghost could continue to haunt around with you here (this is in part so that this chat doesn't get boring for ya) Thirdly: (as I told Pooka already)The HIDDEN MODIFIER(which was set to only take effect if/when one SUSian/Scum got spaced) has now kicked in. Starting on N3, the scum team's NK picks have 100% chance of success. (on the current "night", N2, it is still only a 75% chance of success)
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Post by pooka on Jul 16, 2023 5:10:45 GMT
I am already dead! What!
If Catventurer stays alive, you can always play the drum that we were staging this bussing on each other so the surviving one gets town points over the other.
You'll also need to stress at all times that Micro and Scene need to post. For all you know, I could've been paired with either. Heck, if I was the first mate or something, the ship captain Micro could be scum too. I dunno.
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Post by pooka on Jul 16, 2023 5:29:28 GMT
And yes I can talk here anyway. Better for me, lets me stay engaged with the game. Usually when I get ejected early, I just torpedo the game out of my mind, heh.
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Post by pooka on Jul 16, 2023 5:42:47 GMT
The hidden modifier not taking effect until next Night is boo. We'll be damned if Catventurer lives, I'm like 50% sure she's lying about her machine breaking. But the other 50% is a nagging feeling that she's actually telling the truth and we'll letting a potential tracker or something get the scoop on you. I believe we're now 1v6? Also shit, that means, eventually, you'll have to convince a Townie to lynch the other one and not you. Last time I did that was in GOG Forum Mafia #74, and let me tell you, yeah I did manage to convince the one Townie (Lift) to vote out the other (Micro), but at that point there's no one you could look hopefully at to tip the scales. That Townie could've just as easily decided it was me on a whim, and bam, the game lost. But my basic idea in that game as the situation emerged was: in the second to last Day, Lift insisted that Micro did a gutsy bussing play so he can lone wolf the rest of the game on his own. I kept telling Lift that Micro is not that kind of player, and insisted on it all day. The next day, Micro investigated me and called me scum, so I had to do a complete 180 and call him a scum too, and just then appeal to Lift that "you were actually right about Micro". Eventually Lift just WANTED his original theory about Micro being ballsy as heck to become real, and got so mesmerized by the idea, he voted Micro instead of me. Game set. I did it. But it was stressful as hell, weeeeeeeee
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Post by pooka on Jul 16, 2023 5:50:07 GMT
Catventurer, if you're reading this: I still think your play is scummy, but who cares at this point? You got me spaced out faster than I could dream of. It seems like a kinda bruteforce-y way of doing things as Town, but hey, you combined the best elements of both teams to some dangerously effective cocktail, heh. Thanks for putting up a challenge.
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Post by The GOGFather on Jul 16, 2023 7:10:26 GMT
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Post by sage103082 on Jul 16, 2023 11:35:23 GMT
I am already dead! What! If Catventurer stays alive, you can always play the drum that we were staging this bussing on each other so the surviving one gets town points over the other. You'll also need to stress at all times that Micro and Scene need to post. For all you know, I could've been paired with either. Heck, if I was the first mate or something, the ship captain Micro could be scum too. I dunno. I think your right, I need to call out micro and scene for not posting. I also plan to call out catv for lying. For knowing more information then she is willing to say. She still will not answer me on how she knew for a fact gr said it failed on its own.. not that i read and i went back and re-read. Woohoo I can still talk with pooka!! Thank you GR!
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Post by sage103082 on Jul 16, 2023 11:40:25 GMT
The hidden modifier not taking effect until next Night is boo. We'll be damned if Catventurer lives, I'm like 50% sure she's lying about her machine breaking. But the other 50% is a nagging feeling that she's actually telling the truth and we'll letting a potential tracker or something get the scoop on you. I believe we're now 1v6? Also shit, that means, eventually, you'll have to convince a Townie to lynch the other one and not you. Last time I did that was in GOG Forum Mafia #74, and let me tell you, yeah I did manage to convince the one Townie (Lift) to vote out the other (Micro), but at that point there's no one you could look hopefully at to tip the scales. That Townie could've just as easily decided it was me on a whim, and bam, the game lost. But my basic idea in that game as the situation emerged was: in the second to last Day, Lift insisted that Micro did a gutsy bussing play so he can lone wolf the rest of the game on his own. I kept telling Lift that Micro is not that kind of player, and insisted on it all day. The next day, Micro investigated me and called me scum, so I had to do a complete 180 and call him a scum too, and just then appeal to Lift that "you were actually right about Micro". Eventually Lift just WANTED his original theory about Micro being ballsy as heck to become real, and got so mesmerized by the idea, he voted Micro instead of me. Game set. I did it. But it was stressful as hell, weeeeeeeee Yeah I do not see me being able to convince anyone to change their mind. Unless I have something to call them on. I do not do well on trying to call someone out on things that aren't there. I will answer questions asked of me but when it comes to trying to completely change someone's mind I fall short. *Bows. I would never be able to convince Lift.
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Post by sage103082 on Jul 16, 2023 11:43:19 GMT
Catventurer, if you're reading this: I still think your play is scummy, but who cares at this point? You got me spaced out faster than I could dream of. It seems like a kinda bruteforce-y way of doing things as Town, but hey, you combined the best elements of both teams to some dangerously effective cocktail, heh. Thanks for putting up a challenge. Here game play on many different levels and different reasons are who I really really like her as my NK choice and knowing I have the same chances on whoever is picked. And if my logic is correct if she picks me to investigate and I picked her to for NK and I roll the ok to allow it. She would be able to do nothing but watch me kill her however if my NK fails she may not even be in her room and in mine scanning my goo.
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Post by sage103082 on Jul 16, 2023 11:49:31 GMT
She thinks I'm scum, which is correct but bad for me. I do not like her ignoring me when she chooses to, town or not this game is a lot of work putting into keeping up on top of RL and to be ignored just hurts a little and makes it harder to want to put so much effort into it. Also, she is often unable to post but is able to post (in what seems to me) when its in her best interest. She lied about actually keeping up with the game, she admitted to use posting lack of catching up when in fact she was. Such as she has time to make up intense scenarios however, she cannot point to where GR said our NK failed on its own or where I had an issue with you being her NA choice. She is baiting me. In a post day 2 she states dedo and I will find scum without picking apart post or something similar which raised my eyebrow bc she had already shown scum vibes about me. Now she is lying or putting words in my mouth I did not say.
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Post by pooka on Jul 16, 2023 12:28:40 GMT
I think if she survives, it's best to keep her at bay from a distance whilst focusing on someone else. Trent or Micro maybe.
I'm very tempted to tell you to get her removed during the Day in this scenario but that didn't work with me leading the helm to begin with. I'm now several bits of goo because of that.
Also, heh, I think I managed to convince Lift because it was Micro who came out and said I'm the scum. If it was Lift who did it to me, Micro could've gone with Lift. So if you make it to the Final Day, let's say it comes down to dedo and Micro, you want to make sure if dedo was suspicious all game of Micro, and vice versa. Then exploit that. You can play like the spaceship will explode with you on it if you want, just don't back down.
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Post by pooka on Jul 16, 2023 12:38:26 GMT
Oh yeah, be absolutely careful of anyone who tries to connect the dots with me and another mafioso. You might want to pair me with another mafioso candidate. Catventurer should be your #1 theory if she lives.
Now as to why she would bus me this early if she's scum? Maybe we agreed in the scumchat that my position as a Townie got weaker the more Day 1 went on. Eventually she came up with her theory, that scum don't follow the leader on successful wagons. However if you look at Frost's wagon, guess who were the first three voters? Yes, Catventurer first and foremost, Micro, and then myself (scum).
She might have came up with that theory AND bussed me very hard because she is actually the Leader Scumâ„¢, and she wants me to hold that title instead, and ultimately come out in the best light possible with the most Town points.
And ultimately, we both agree in secret. In a synergy never seen before, she comes out with her claim in a really scummy way, and I pick apart at these seams deliberately put there. Eventually she busses me.
That is if she happens to survive.
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